[Fortunately, he has caught him at one of the few times he's not wearing, sitting on the couch scratching his dog and relaxing. He tenses a little, having to think about what he wants to say and how to say it before replying.]

From what I've come to understand of these things, none of us are fully in control of ourselves or what we do when we wear them. It would be...uncharitable of me to hold that against you.

I do think we should talk in person, ah...without charms. I could come to the church when it's convenient.